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  ARC - Case Study 54 - All Exhibits have been released

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  all exhibits for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower, have been released by the arc.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

  exhibit list.

  joint statement of o'brien and spinks.

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  breakfast of champions

  You`re using a Strawman Argument, to refute a Strawman Argument. -- OUTLAW

  OUTLAW -- I'm sorry, but I also have to take issue with the fact that you cited Wikipedia's "Straw Man" argument page.

  You should have cited Wikipedia's entry for "Fucktard."
  
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  ARC - Case Study 54 - All Exhibits have been released

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  all exhibits for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower, have been released by the arc.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

  exhibit list.

  joint statement of o'brien and spinks.

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  breakfast of champions

  Oh good.

  Our two in-house lawyers have arrived to clear things up for us.
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  ARC - Case Study 54 - All Exhibits have been released

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  all exhibits for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower, have been released by the arc.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

  exhibit list.

  joint statement of o'brien and spinks.

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  breakfast of champions

  Although viewing child pornography is not considered to be child sexual abuse, it is still a serious violation of Jehovah’s standards. A person involved in viewing child pornography should be strongly counseled.

  This is amazing. They have to be the most ignorant people on the face of the earth.

  As a side note:

  Years ago, a MS in a nearby congregation was busted by the authorities for downloading and spreading child pornography -- it was in the local papers and everything. What did the elders do? Nothing, other than remove him as MS. He was "repentant" and they (supposedly) could find nothing in the elder's book to nail him on.

  He ended up going to prison for a few years, and is now out. He is in the online sex offender registry for the state. Thank god for Satan's worldly governmental authorities.
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  Don't be afraid to go to college

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought this was a good video showing how the logic is faulty from the gb.

  just bare with lett for a minute.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1otsrp0bp4.

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  breakfast of champions

  SCRATCHME1010 - Love the side-by-side comparison.

  Same shit, different cult.
  
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  Wish me all the best

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i called in to my local walgreens pharmacy to get my blood pressure medicine refilled.

  i go to the pharmacy to pick it up and they tell me that the doctor has denied filling it saying to them, "prescription refill not appropriate".

  i asked them what that means and they say you'll have to contact your doctor on that, sorry.

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  breakfast of champions

  Great to hear you're trying to turn things around LTPF. I do indeed wish you the best!

  I don't think I've ever mentioned my "drinking history" here before. . . .

  I really didn't drink much at all up until my early 30's, which I suppose was a good start. I'd buy a bottle of wine every now and then, and it would turn to vinegar before I ever finished it.
  

  Then I became an elder. . . . .

  It didn't start right away, but towards the end of my stint as an elder (right before I had a nervous breakdown), I went from not finishing a bottle of wine before it turned, to finishing half a bottle a night, to a bottle a night (not every night though).

  After I stepped down, I was still an emotional wreck and used drinking to calm myself down quite frequently. Even so, it was certainly not a daily thing. Maybe 3-4 nights a week. There were also times I went for months without a drop to drink.

  Pretty much stayed that way for years. Then a couple of years ago some major family stuff happened (I have not talked about this either here) and I started drinking every day.

  Fortunately, I'm not on any medications, but even so, some of my most recent blood tests have showed elevated liver enzymes. . . . and even though they were just borderline, this has really freaked me out.

  So, the other week I told my wife that I really need to cut WAY back, and to please remind me if it seems I'm falling back into this really bad pattern.

  For the past week or so, I have had nothing to drink during weekdays, and I'll treat myself to a few pints of my favorite local craft beer on the weekends.

  I've cut out hard liquor entirely (the daily vodka/gin martini ritual is done. Those were so tasty though .. . . . )

  So, I guess what I'm saying is that you're not alone in this battle. Keep at it!
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  Sample Disassociation Letter please?

  by LifesNotOver in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i want to send a disassociation letter to the elders at my old congregation.

  how do i address it and what wording do i use?

  i know it's not something i have to do, it's symbolic for me.

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  breakfast of champions

  Dear Brothers,

  SO LONG AND THANKS FOR ALL THE FISH!!!

  Sincerely,

  . . . . .
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  My Son's wish granted from Make A Wish

  by azor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we leave friday for his disney cruise wish.

  he's also a big star wars fan, and they have a star wars day on one of the seafaring days.

  to say we are all looking forward to this is an understatement.

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  breakfast of champions

  Awesome! Enjoy.
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  NPR News: Lack Of Education Leads To Lost Dreams And Low Income For Many Jehovah's Witnesses

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.npr.org/2017/02/19/510585965/poor-education-leads-to-lost-dreams-and-low-income-for-many-jehovahs-witnesses.

  can't comment on this right now because i'm heading off to school .

  transcript:.

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  Oops! Didn't realize there were other threads started on this and posted in haste. . . .

  Still a good article. Great that this stuff is getting out there.
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  NPR News: Lack Of Education Leads To Lost Dreams And Low Income For Many Jehovah's Witnesses

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.npr.org/2017/02/19/510585965/poor-education-leads-to-lost-dreams-and-low-income-for-many-jehovahs-witnesses.

  can't comment on this right now because i'm heading off to school .

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  breakfast of champions

  http://www.npr.org/2017/02/19/510585965/poor-education-leads-to-lost-dreams-and-low-income-for-many-jehovahs-witnesses

  Can't comment on this right now because I'm heading off to school
  

  Transcript:

  MICHEL MARTIN, HOST:

  Of all major U.S. religious groups, members of the Jehovah's Witnesses have the lowest rate of formal education - that according to a Pew study. And as Luke Vander Ploeg reports, that can have a real impact on people who choose to leave the religion.

  LUKE VANDER PLOEG, BYLINE: Cracked leather couches and pictures from mission trips line the walls of a borrowed room at a church in Long Beach, Calif.

  DEAN: My name is Dean. I was baptized in '93, left '95.

  BECKY ALVAREZ: Becky Alvarez. I left in '94.

  DAVE HAMPTON: My name's Dave Hampton. I'm married to an ex-Witness which is always fun.

  VANDER PLOEG: This is a meeting of the ex-Jehovah's Witnesses of Los Angeles, a support group that gets together once a month. Today it's about 12 people strong. Zachary Linderer left the Witnesses about five months ago. He's new to the meetings.

  ZACHARY LINDERER: Actually this one today was my first time.

  VANDER PLOEG: How did you feel about it?

  LINDERER: It was a little funny, a little uncomfortable, but I don't know. I still relate to them very strongly because of my background. So it's kind of a mixed feelings.

  VANDER PLOEG: A main function of the support group is talking about that shared background. This week, the topic of discussion is how Witnesses treat higher education. It's something that's played a major role in Zachary's life.

  LINDERER: I wanted to be a physicist or an oceanographer or something having to do with the sciences, but it was very clear that I wasn't going to be able to do that.

  VANDER PLOEG: Zachary's dad had heard stories about college.

  LINDERER: He told me that he knew people who were into science, and it drug them right out of the truth.

  VANDER PLOEG: There was some secret dangerous piece of knowledge that universities taught.

  LINDERER: I didn't know what that was, but it was just like a bogeyman. It's just there, and it's going to get you. And if you do it, it's going to ruin you.

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  ANTHONY MORRIS III: I have long said the better the university, the greater the danger.

  VANDER PLOEG: That's Anthony Morris III, a member of the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses. Witness leadership declined to speak to NPR for this story. This is Morris in an online video.

  (SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

  MORRIS: One brother likened his experience in a university setting to being in a house that is on fire. Spiritually speaking, he said, even if you escape alive, your clothes still smell like smoke. It has an effect on you.

  VANDER PLOEG: Corrupting influence is just one of the reasons Witnesses frown on higher education. They also believe the end of the world is imminent and time in college would be better spent going door to door winning converts. Zachary Linderer's family discouraged education so strongly that he never even finished high school. He did end up going back to get his GED and becoming an electrician, but he says that longing to study science never left him.

  LINDERER: I think I had that feeling, that sense at 17 years old or so that that was like - that's what I wanted it to be. That's what I needed to be, and there's been this hole ever since then.

  VANDER PLOEG: That's a sentiment I heard from nearly all of the 100 plus ex-Witnesses I talked to, that feeling of being robbed of something. It's not unheard of for Witnesses to graduate college, but it's very unlikely. Pew Research shows that only 9 percent of Jehovah's Witnesses get a bachelor's degree. That's well below the national average and the lowest of any faith group. The same study also shows that Witnesses have some of the lowest income of any major religion. Amber McGee falls in that category. She grew up a Witness in rural Texas. Her parents pulled her and her siblings out of school at a young age.

  AMBER MCGEE: My mom herself who was supposed to be our homeschool teacher was not capable of doing it emotionally, mentally.

  VANDER PLOEG: Amber's mother never finished high school.

  MCGEE: She had three young children. She was by herself very far from family and even just grocery stores and that sort of thing.

  VANDER PLOEG: Eventually, Amber's mother gave up teaching them. The girls had to do it themselves using workbooks.

  MCGEE: I would do all the multiple choice and true and false, and they would write all the essays for all the subjects. So it was really bad. I literally barely graduated.

  VANDER PLOEG: That's made life difficult for Amber. She's 34 years old and the most she's made in a year is about $14,000. Amber and her husband left the Witnesses a year ago. They're doing better now financially, but it's still far from what Amber had hoped for her life.

  MCGEE: I was taught very, very young to stop dreaming, to not have dreams, that you'll never ever be a famous person or a doctor or nurse. It's not possible. So now as an adult, I'm learning to start dreaming again.

  VANDER PLOEG: If not for her own future, then definitely for the futures of her kids. For NPR News, I'm Luke Vander Ploeg in Los Angeles.
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  No Longer a JW Expert But Starting to Figure Out Life

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  consider this an update for those that remember me here.... when i left in 2006, it started a 10 year journey into a new phase.

  no more "safety".

  some people want to be their own person.

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  breakfast of champions

  This is a great post.

  I have pretty much come to terms with having a "limp" for the rest of my life myself.

  One of my professors suggested "Don't try to undo the past" but just do the best possible moving forward. . .. which is exactly what I've been doing.